Were / Are the Governing Body "Rock Stars"

by Number 6 in

in 1976 when i was a young lad of 6, fred franz came to glasgow and gave a talk in govan a suburb on the south side of the city (for those of you who dont know).

our congregation hired a bus to ferry us all to the hall and it was standing room only.

being only 6, i have only the vaguest of memories other than an old man shouting and bawling from the stage.

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Leo Greenless, W. Glen How, Nathan H. Knorr, Percy Chapman

Governing Body member Leo K. Greenlees was forced to resign and leave Bethel in late 1984. Greenlees was allegedly convicted by the rest of the Governing Body of molesting a ten-year-old boy.

Around 1978-79, my family and I went to a local High School auditorium in a suburb of Chicago to hear Governing Body member Leo Greenless give a talk and slide presentation. The auditorium was full of Jehovah's Witnesses who were going to meet the Jehovah's Witnesses version of the Pope. A slide presentation about the conditions of the world was presented. Very informative if you wore rose-colored glasses.

After the ending prayer, long lines formed in the front of the auditorium to meet and greet the POPE. We waited in line and got to meet Mr. Greenless. ( Now I know how Catholics feel when they talk and touch the Pope) We were so excited to meet Mr. Greenless.

Little did we know that Leo Greenless was living a secret life and that the Watchtower Society was just a human organization disguising themselves as God's earthly organization!

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Pat Robertson using the Bible to justify horrible actions

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

here comes old and senile pat robertson speaking on his television program, the 700 club.

robertson went on a rant (when asked by an audience member) on his thoughts about the death penalty.. robertson said:.

are you kidding?

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truth_b_known wrote:

It is true the police sometimes get it wrong. It is true that sometimes prosecutors successfully litigate innocent people.

Exactly true! There are many prisoners who are exonerated of their crimes.

I would hope there is an eye witness to the Murder, which often there is not.

That is why you cannot execute anyone just because police and prosecutors present a strong case.

We will always have crime and violence, but we can certainly reduce it to a rarity.

True!

The death penalty will never deter crime. People who commit crimes never think they will be caught.

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Pat Robertson using the Bible to justify horrible actions

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

here comes old and senile pat robertson speaking on his television program, the 700 club.

robertson went on a rant (when asked by an audience member) on his thoughts about the death penalty.. robertson said:.

are you kidding?

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https://bohatala.com/death-penalty-in-the-us-facts-statistics-and-pros-and-cons/

Death Penalty in the US Facts, Statistics and Pros and Cons

“About 52% of death row inmates are Black or other minority, versus 17% in the general population”. (The death Penalty, Capital punishment) These statistics again confirms the misuse of death penalty. In a country like United States, most of the people punished for capital punishment belong to the minority community. This is not because of the excess crime committed by the minority community. In fact the majority public is committing more crimes compared to the minorities, but most of them escape from laws because of their influences upon the criminal judicial system and also the dual standards adopted by the government against the same crime committed by majority and minority public. Thus death sentence is a powerful weapon in the hands of the government to execute their hidden agendas. Even in front of the law, people are discriminated.

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Pat Robertson using the Bible to justify horrible actions

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

here comes old and senile pat robertson speaking on his television program, the 700 club.

robertson went on a rant (when asked by an audience member) on his thoughts about the death penalty.. robertson said:.

are you kidding?

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but what's wrong with the death penalty?

The death penalty is racially biased

poor people who commit a crime cannot afford the best criminal attorney

does not deter crime

you don't really know who is really innocent, who is truly guilty....some are innocent

crooked police/prosecutors/judges influenced by racial prejudice

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Pat Robertson using the Bible to justify horrible actions

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

here comes old and senile pat robertson speaking on his television program, the 700 club.

robertson went on a rant (when asked by an audience member) on his thoughts about the death penalty.. robertson said:.

are you kidding?

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Here comes old and senile Pat Robertson speaking on his television program, The 700 Club. Robertson went on a rant (when asked by an audience member) on his thoughts about the death penalty.

Robertson said:

Are you kidding? Read the Bible. Read the Old Testament. I tell you, if a son is ungovernable and will not listen to his parents, the parents can bring the son before the authorities and the son will be executed. Jesus said, you know, I don’t condemn you, neither should anybody else condemn you.

But I think the whole idea of forgiveness is absolutely there, but in terms of — the Apostle Paul said, ‘He that wields the sword wields it not in vain but he’s a minister of God to execute judgment on the unbeliever’ — on those who are disobedient. He’s a minister of God wielding judgment.

And I do think the death penalty — you got Charles Manson! Why should the state have to pay hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to incarcerate a stone-cold killer? I mean, the death penalty is certainly biblical. Absolutely biblical!

Here are more insane and oppressive Biblical laws that shed light on nutcases like Pat Robertson and followers who have no problem using the Bible ( word for word) as a bad source of advice:

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of its inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)

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Hats Off To Simon

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

jw
friends

huge round of applause for simon (not every hero wears a cape).

this is to say a huge big thank you,tons of appreciation and gratitude from me for simon for toiling away on his own dime for 20 years or so and keeping this site up and running .

surely this site has helped tons of jdumbs n exjdumbs in their search for ttatt and freedom.

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Thank you, Simon, for a site that has helped thousands who knew something was not right about the WTBTS! The darkness from the Watchtower Society has been brought to the forefront and has been exposed!

This site is funny, serious, has useful information, has useless information, silly, annoying, truthful, news you want to hear, news you don't want to hear, moves too fast, moves slow, members fighting and calling each other names, members thanking each other for information which was just unearthed, letters and files coming from the horses' mouth, ex-Bethel members experiences which expose the inner workings of the Watchtower Society, etc, etc.

Simon is like a really cool parent who only steps in when things get out of control. Members complain about Simon stepping in too early or too late( you cannot have it both ways).

THANK YOU SIMON AND CONTINUED SUCCESS! HOPE YOU NEVER TIRE OUT! THIS SITE HELPS TOO MANY PEOPLE FOR IT TO COME TO A STOP!

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Double Standards of the Watchtower

by Vanderhoven7 in

are you aware of any double standards promoted by the organization of jehovah's witnesses?

here a a few i am aware of:.

1. the wts equated joining the ymca with apostasy but felt free to join the un for 10 years (1991-2001).

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w99 4/15 pp. 28-30
Questions From Readers

Some of Jehovah’s Witnesses have been offered employment involving religious buildings or property. What is the Scriptural view of such work?

For instance, from those two questions, one can see why a true worshiper would not be a direct employee of a false religious organization, working for and in a church. Revelation 18:4 sets out the command: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins.” A person would be sharing in the works and sins of Babylon the Great if he was a regular employee of a religion that was teaching false worship. Whether the employee was a gardener, a janitor, a repairman, or an accountant, his work would serve to promote worship that conflicts with true religion. Moreover, people who would see this employee working to beautify the church, keep it in repair, or carry out its religious pursuits would reasonably link him with that religion.

IN THE MEANTIME THE WATCHTOWER CAN SELL THEIR KINGDOM HALLS TO CHURCHES!

The French Speaking Baptist Church of Stratford is now located in the former Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall at 494 Milford Point Road.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses sold the building at 494 Milford Point Road to the French Speaking Baptist Church of Stratford for $400,000 in June 2019.

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Rec'd a letter from my Dad - need some advice...

by Fadeaway3pointer in

fader here - last meeting was in autumn 2005. lurker on this site and others.

not one to get all controversial.. typical situation, pretty much a born in and left the church at age 38 and never looked back.. i'm 53 now, parents getting older - late 70s but very active, dad is still an elder.. parents, in laws, brother and brother-in-law still uber active jws.. my family (wife and 2 adult children) out since 2005.. we have stayed close to our parents - we have treaded religion lightly and have had a pretty good relationship and have kept our personal lives and beliefs/opinions separated from them.

this was intentional - as we love them and do not want anything to cause shunning since they are getting older and want to be there for them and we respect their beliefs.. got this letter today.

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PS: we suspect that after reading this letter you will be outraged and then text, or call on the phone, or drive down to express your negative thoughts and feelings towards us, the congregation and the organization. Please don't. Our hearts hurt enough already.

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March 2020 Watchtower Study...Love for Jehovah lead Ethiopian eunuch to get baptized. Really? Not Jesus?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | march 2020. love and appreciation for jehovah lead to baptism.

( this picture is not from the article!

i found it online to add a little color to the paragraph).

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | March 2020

Love and Appreciation for Jehovah Lead to Baptism

( THIS PICTURE IS NOT FROM THE ARTICLE! I FOUND IT ONLINE TO ADD A LITTLE COLOR TO THE PARAGRAPH)

2 The Ethiopian acted immediately on what he had learned from the Scriptures. (Read Acts 8:27-31, 35-38.) What motivated him? He obviously appreciated God’s Word; he was reading a passage from the book of Isaiah as he rode in a chariot. And when Philip spoke with him, the man developed an appreciation for what Jesus had done for him. But why had the official traveled to Jerusalem? Because he had already developed a love for Jehovah. How do we know? He had just been worshipping Jehovah in Jerusalem. This man had apparently left the religion of his birth and had joined the only nation that was dedicated to the true God. It was this same love for Jehovah that motivated him to take yet another vital step, that of getting baptized and becoming a disciple of Christ.—Matt. 28:19.

Paragraph 2 is so dishonest! Where is Jesus? Nowhere to be seen, as usual in Watchtower land!

The Ethiopian eunuch just read about the good news about Jesus. He gets baptized after Philip explains the scripture that he is reading. The scripture is about Jesus. That understanding led to Ethiopian to get baptized, not the ''LOVE FOR JEHOVAH''!

32 This is the passage of Scripture the eunuch was reading:

“He was led like a sheep to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before its shearer is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
33 In his humiliation, he was deprived of justice.
Who can speak of his descendants?
For his life was taken from the earth.”[a]

34 The eunuch asked Philip, “Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?” 35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.

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How can a building dedicated to God, be sold?

by krismalone in

i was just wondering this morning about all the kingdom halls and branches being sold to "babylon the great" and other businesses.

every single kingdom hall and bethel branch that has been sold was "dedicated to jehovah" by the watchtower corporation.

a special meeting with a guest speaker gives a talk and then offers a prayer dedicating the building to yhwh.

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You would definitely get counseled for going to a church service, church wedding, church funeral, painting a church, cutting the lawn or maintain a church building !!!... But if the Watchtower Society sells a Kingdom Hall building to a church, then that's ok!!

The French Speaking Baptist Church of Stratford is now located in the former Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall at 494 Milford Point Road.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses sold the building at 494 Milford Point Road to the French Speaking Baptist Church of Stratford for $400,000 in June 2019.

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